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Submitted by new2city on Fri, 25/08/2006 - 07:19. Accessories

Hello all,

Been a wizard owner for almost 2 months now, mine is a Dopod838. Enjoying the experience with all the suggestions I got from this site and the XDA developer forums as well. Anyway, just in case you didn't know, the wizard by Dopod supports AAC and I found that it is also supports ACC plus SBR(don't ask me to explain as I am no expert). Sure, with the supplied WMP plays it is mono but with TCPMP player(with aac plugin), who needs WMP.

Anyway, if you are really starve for space on your 1Gb MiniSd as I am, try aacplus(I think that's what they call aac with SBR). I now, compress my songs at a bit rate of 32(they are tiny) and still sound great!! I have now over 200Mb of songs in my storage which means around 200+ songs with aacplus at that tiny size..

It works as ringtones as well(only mono) but who needs stereo ringtones but if you use TCPMP, it plays at full stereo.

just to share my discovery...

I use dbpoweramp to compress to m4a(don't force LC-AAC) just make sure you download the Nero Digital Audio(AAC) encoder.

That's great. I just

Submitted by freeyayo50 on Sun, 27/08/2006 - 02:58.

That's great. I just downloaded the program. Do you use the Quality, Constant or Average setting with the codec??

the smaller file with little distortion

Submitted by new2city on Mon, 28/08/2006 - 18:08.

I use Quality .25(64kbps) for my PC and quality .15(32kbps) for my wizard.

at 64 kbps, the sound is pretty comparable to Mp3 at 128kbps, at 32 it has a slight deteriotation but I could be imagining it.

My friend who is a into AV, can accept the 32. Therefore,as I wanted smaller files, I went for 32. At 16kbps, even my ears can hear distortion so I settle at 32.

Not Playing

Submitted by freeyayo50 on Sun, 27/08/2006 - 23:46.

The m4a files I create are not playing in TCPMP on my 8125. Do I need an additional codec for TCPMP to play the file??

aac or wma

Submitted by fastguyemre on Mon, 28/08/2006 - 11:50.

Instead of aac, you can also use wma (ms standard) which is compatible with TCPMP and WMP. I generally compress at 80 kbps stereo and it sounds good.

There are some nice compression applications like dbPowerAmp or Windows Media Encoder to do batch encoding if you'd like to convert your music.

which do you prefer?

Submitted by new2city on Mon, 28/08/2006 - 18:11.

I have tried wma previously as it was supported by wmp, but after trying aacplus(aac with SBR), the compression got better so I settled for aacplus. Sounds better(to me) than wma at the same bitrate...

I use dbPowerAmp as well, great piece of software...

Re: m4a support for TCPMP

Submitted by Andre Koster on Mon, 28/08/2006 - 12:02.

You need to install these for the most common formats, including m4a. It works perfect for the m4a files that my iTunes makes.

aac vs aac with SBR

Submitted by new2city on Mon, 28/08/2006 - 18:16.

Hi Andre,

You said you used iTunes, so you have used aac(without SBR), what do you think of aac with SBR as oppose to without SBR (iTunes AAC)? At first I converted to aac using iTunes, but when I read that I can go to even lower bitrateds with aac with SBR, I switched straight from aac. I uninstalled iTunes after this... Don't need it anymore.. Downloaded 3ivx codecs so that WMP can play it on my PC as well..

Re: SBR with AAC

Submitted by Andre Koster on Mon, 28/08/2006 - 18:52.

I had never heard of SBR, but just looked it up in Wikipedia. Hence, I have no opinion of AAC with or without it. However, I use AAC to get a better quality at a given bitrate (I use the iTunes default of 128 kb/s), not to archive lower bitrates. Also, I use iTunes primarily for managing my music collection.

Doesn't quite work for me

Submitted by Cynetix on Fri, 01/09/2006 - 20:13.

I created all of my .m4a files with dbPowerAmp.

I have all 4 of these plug-ins installed and when I try to play .m4a files with TCPMP, I get the error "Player: MPEG AAC Audio decoder not included! It was removed from the official install package because of intellectual property considerations." I even removed and reinstalled them.

I am however, able to play these files with WMP. Sound quality is not the best but it works for now.

Here's the plugin

Submitted by Cynetix on Wed, 06/09/2006 - 15:52.

Thanks to new2city for helping me find the file. I have included the URL where you can get the plug-in needed to make TCPMP play m4a files. Be sure and read the included readme file to know which file to use for what phone.

http://www.rarewares.org/files/aac/tcpmp_aac_plugin.windows_mobile.0.66.zip

ACC with 32 kbps sounds

Submitted by freeyayo50 on Tue, 05/09/2006 - 22:49.

ACC with 32 kbps sounds pretty good & the file size is small (about >1mb per song). You have to find the ACC codec for WM5. I d/l the codec and I can play the converted songs fine. It even makes Windows media play the ACC files :-).
But recently i just hard reset my 8125 and now the ACC files are not playing in windows media :-/

Dopod 838 plays m4a by default

Submitted by new2city on Wed, 06/09/2006 - 02:44.

Hi,

Just wondering when you said that you WM5 plays aac with 32kbps well, do you mean aac with SBR(aacplus?) and does it play in mono. On my Dopod 838, it plays aac and aacplus by default but I notice it is playing in mono... Where did you fine the codec and how do you install it in the wizard? 3ivx codec was recommended and works for WMP9 on XP.... BTW...

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